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A CAUTIOUS Gary Megson has put the celebrations on hold, but there is no doubt among the players and fans that the Whites are staying up.
Saturday's victory over Sunderland, combined with defeats for close rivals Birmingham and Reading means that only a miracle can send Wanderers down now.
Jubilant Bolton supporters chanted "We are staying up!" as a statement of fact rather than an expression of hope while the smiles on the faces of the players as they left the field and emerged from the dressing room was a clear sign that they knew they would not be caught.
They go to Chelsea on Sunday, knowing nothing short of a mathematical catastrophe can deny them an eighth successive season of top flight football - a remarkable achievement considering they looked down and out after losing 4-0 at Aston Villa a month ago.
Since that morale-shattering defeat, they have taken 10 points from a possible 12 and left Fulham, Birmingham and Reading facing a nerve-wracking final day.
"Three or four weeks ago, we were written off - we hadn't won in eight games," said Kevin Davies, who returned from a two-match ban to give a typically brave performance with a light splint on his broken hand.
"To turn it round is unbelievable.
"Only goal difference can change things now, so we'll go down to Chelsea and put 10 men behind the ball and, hopefully that will be OK."
Gary Cahill, who joined Wanderers in a £5million transfer from Aston Villa in January, spurning an offer from Birmingham, played a major role in a defence that conceded just one goal in the last four games, when all seemed lost.
"Even when things were going badly, I was enjoying my time here," said the 22-year-old centre-back.
"But, obviously this is the league I wanted to be in. This is why I came to Bolton.
"This has made my decision even better, so I'm very, very happy."
Skipper Kevin Nolan praised the fans for getting behind the team when they were needed and urged them to take advantage of the club's free coach travel offer and fill the visitors' section at Stamford Bridge.
"I would like to thank all our supporters who have been great all season," he said.
"In recent weeks when we've really needed to get the results, they have responded to our calls.
"All the lads are grateful. We'd like to take the full 3,000 down to Chelsea and for as many fans to take advantage of our free coach offer as possible. We want them there so that we can finish off the job and hopefully get a result against Chelsea on their own patch.
"This was a massive result. We've got to where we wanted to be. It's been absolutely fantastic what we've achieved, especially over the last four games.
"We were written off, and rightly so, after we were hammered by Aston Villa but we had a chat and asked ourselves Do we want to be known as the team that took Bolton Wanderers down after all the success we've had over the last four or five years?'
"We know we are not mathematically safe but we are a long way down that road to being safe.
"Thank God all of the hard work behind the scenes has got us into this position. The pressure was on us to produce and we did.
"It would have been a disaster if we had gone down."
10:25am Monday 5th May 2008
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CommentPosted by: King Cain, Bolton on 10:33am Mon 5 May 08
Well ive only just sobered up from Saturday plus I seem to have lost my voice, the Reebok was rocking some. Fantastic result achieved by sheer brute determination rather than guile but ill take it for the short term. Well done to the players for getting us out of this mess in recent weeks. Let’s saviour the moment but at the same time do not let this escape act cloud our judgement. To forget about what has gone on in recent years in particular the last couple would be foolish, another season of gross under investment coupled with a very poor manager in charge will only result in the same next year. Im sick of hearing Megson telling us how well he’s done and our position when he took over. Well he inherited the vast majority of a team that had finished in the top 8 for 4 consecutive seasons with only 10 games of the season undeway. Gartside and Davies should be bold and brave and get rid, install a fresh, hungry, young, innovative manager like John Collins now to take us forward with a war chest from last years sky money (which we never spent), the small profit from the Anelka sale and this years sky money. Without this I dread to think what season ticket sales will be like, despite what Gartside thinks we are not thick and this success is only painting over the cracks.
Well ive only just sobered up from Saturday plus I seem to have lost my voice, the Reebok was rocking some. Fantastic result achieved by sheer brute determination rather than guile but ill take it for the short term. Well done to the players for getting us out of this mess in recent weeks. Let’s saviour the moment but at the same time do not let this escape act cloud our judgement. To forget about what has gone on in recent years in particular the last couple would be foolish, another season of gross under investment coupled with a very poor manager in charge will only result in the same next year. Im sick of hearing Megson telling us how well he’s done and our position when he took over. Well he inherited the vast majority of a team that had finished in the top 8 for 4 consecutive seasons with only 10 games of the season undeway. Gartside and Davies should be bold and brave and get rid, install a fresh, hungry, young, innovative manager like John Collins now to take us forward with a war chest from last years sky money (which we never spent), the small profit from the Anelka sale and this years sky money. Without this I dread to think what season ticket sales will be like, despite what Gartside thinks we are not thick and this success is only painting over the cracks.
Posted by: Only one Andy Walker, London on 10:41am Mon 5 May 08
Allardyce is right when he say's " It will be great if they survive but that’s not achievement. They should have been much higher up the table".
Allardyce is right when he say's " It will be great if they survive but that’s not achievement. They should have been much higher up the table".
Posted by: Camposcomb, westhoughton on 11:15am Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]Only one Andy Walker[/bold] wrote:
Allardyce is right when he say's " It will be great if they survive but that’s not achievement. They should have been much higher up the table". [/quote] spot on..we have gone from being he FIFTH most consistant side in the premership to relegation fodder in one season.
Only one Andy Walker wrote:
Allardyce is right when he say's " It will be great if they survive but that’s not achievement. They should have been much higher up the table".
spot on..we have gone from being he FIFTH most consistant side in the premership to relegation fodder in one season.
Posted by: yonmons, Portsmouth on 11:22am Mon 5 May 08
I find it strange the continued lack of comment from Gartside. Even now the pressure it would appear is off, still nothing. He is keeping a very low profile, and this is not the Gartside of old. I cannot help but think that he is about to bale out. We can but hope eh.
I find it strange the continued lack of comment from Gartside. Even now the pressure it would appear is off, still nothing. He is keeping a very low profile, and this is not the Gartside of old. I cannot help but think that he is about to bale out. We can but hope eh.
Posted by: il duce, bolton on 11:33am Mon 5 May 08
[bold]King Cain[/bold] - agree with you on the new manager fron. John Collins is a good shout, but what about Phil Brown (assuming Hull dont get promoted) Hes a bolton lad and the football hes got Hull playing is terrific. In a poor division hes gone against the grain of 1 up front and lumping it, instead opting for fast attacking football. How good would it be to see the wanderers with two wingers, and strikers, and actually attacking, rather than lumping it
King Cain - agree with you on the new manager fron. John Collins is a good shout, but what about Phil Brown (assuming Hull dont get promoted) Hes a bolton lad and the football hes got Hull playing is terrific. In a poor division hes gone against the grain of 1 up front and lumping it, instead opting for fast attacking football. How good would it be to see the wanderers with two wingers, and strikers, and actually attacking, rather than lumping it
Posted by: Camposcomb, westhoughton on 11:36am Mon 5 May 08
Gordon says it would take a ""miracle" to relegate us now..does he not mean catastrophe...or his he showing his true colours???
Gordon says it would take a ""miracle" to relegate us now..does he not mean catastrophe...or his he showing his true colours???
Posted by: King Cain, Bolton on 11:44am Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]il duce[/bold] wrote:
[bold]King Cain[/bold] - agree with you on the new manager fron. John Collins is a good shout, but what about Phil Brown (assuming Hull dont get promoted) Hes a bolton lad and the football hes got Hull playing is terrific. In a poor division hes gone against the grain of 1 up front and lumping it, instead opting for fast attacking football. How good would it be to see the wanderers with two wingers, and strikers, and actually attacking, rather than lumping it[/quote] Yes i know what you are saying about Browny but i dont know if he will be able to attract the top players whereby Collins has contacts on the continent from his time at Monaco. He was a top footballer and his Hibs team played attractive football so i would go for him plus i think he's still out of work from when he quit Hibs. Only problem is he aint a yes man so doubt Gartslime will go for him.
il duce wrote:
King Cain - agree with you on the new manager fron. John Collins is a good shout, but what about Phil Brown (assuming Hull dont get promoted) Hes a bolton lad and the football hes got Hull playing is terrific. In a poor division hes gone against the grain of 1 up front and lumping it, instead opting for fast attacking football. How good would it be to see the wanderers with two wingers, and strikers, and actually attacking, rather than lumping it
Yes i know what you are saying about Browny but i dont know if he will be able to attract the top players whereby Collins has contacts on the continent from his time at Monaco. He was a top footballer and his Hibs team played attractive football so i would go for him plus i think he's still out of work from when he quit Hibs. Only problem is he aint a yes man so doubt Gartslime will go for him.
Posted by: Gareth Jones, Australia on 11:46am Mon 5 May 08
Congratulations to all the Bolton playing staff for keeping us in the Premier League!
Looking forward to next season, I was wondering what are the distinct qualities needed by contemporary managers of modest Premier League clubs like Wanderers.
I believe there are three distinct quality streams:
- To have a high level of personal charisma, and thereby have the ability to attract top-rated players usually not available to the club because of budgetary reasons. Woven into this, the force of character to be able to manage and motivate these players to constantly win games.
- The technical ability to make creative and strategic team selections, and telling substitutions in difficult on-field circumstances that constantly wins games.
- The ability to work with the club's board to capture an appropriate budget to run the team. Also, if possible, good communication skills and an excellent media presence, although some managers have survived without the last part of this quality stream and been successful.
You might notice that at no time have I mentioned coaching, or training. If you want a coach, hire one! Just running round the training field with a beany-hat and tracksuit on will not win you games!
We must ask these questions:
Is Gary Megson fit for purpose at Bolton Wanderers?
And if he stays in place are we doomed to a bottom five relegation struggle again next season?
Congratulations to all the Bolton playing staff for keeping us in the Premier League!
Looking forward to next season, I was wondering what are the distinct qualities needed by contemporary managers of modest Premier League clubs like Wanderers.
I believe there are three distinct quality streams:
- To have a high level of personal charisma, and thereby have the ability to attract top-rated players usually not available to the club because of budgetary reasons. Woven into this, the force of character to be able to manage and motivate these players to constantly win games.
- The technical ability to make creative and strategic team selections, and telling substitutions in difficult on-field circumstances that constantly wins games.
- The ability to work with the club's board to capture an appropriate budget to run the team. Also, if possible, good communication skills and an excellent media presence, although some managers have survived without the last part of this quality stream and been successful.
You might notice that at no time have I mentioned coaching, or training. If you want a coach, hire one! Just running round the training field with a beany-hat and tracksuit on will not win you games!
We must ask these questions:
Is Gary Megson fit for purpose at Bolton Wanderers?
And if he stays in place are we doomed to a bottom five relegation struggle again next season?
Posted by: il duce, bolton on 11:52am Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]King Cain[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]il duce[/bold] wrote:
[bold]King Cain[/bold] - agree with you on the new manager fron. John Collins is a good shout, but what about Phil Brown (assuming Hull dont get promoted) Hes a bolton lad and the football hes got Hull playing is terrific. In a poor division hes gone against the grain of 1 up front and lumping it, instead opting for fast attacking football. How good would it be to see the wanderers with two wingers, and strikers, and actually attacking, rather than lumping it[/quote] Yes i know what you are saying about Browny but i dont know if he will be able to attract the top players whereby Collins has contacts on the continent from his time at Monaco. He was a top footballer and his Hibs team played attractive football so i would go for him plus i think he's still out of work from when he quit Hibs. Only problem is he aint a yes man so doubt Gartslime will go for him.[/quote] yeah hadnt thought about the contacts Collins would bring, and calibre of player he could then attract. yeah probably a better shout than Browny
thing is though do you really think anything will change at the reebok this summer??????? i think after the chelsea game ther will be a massive pr/propaganda exercise to brand this season as a success and megson a genius, which will make most fans forget about how badly run weve been, and well be in for more of the same next season
id love to see these managerial changes but i cant see them happening, unless someone takes over the club, and i cant see much fact in these consortium rumours
King Cain wrote:
il duce wrote:
King Cain - agree with you on the new manager fron. John Collins is a good shout, but what about Phil Brown (assuming Hull dont get promoted) Hes a bolton lad and the football hes got Hull playing is terrific. In a poor division hes gone against the grain of 1 up front and lumping it, instead opting for fast attacking football. How good would it be to see the wanderers with two wingers, and strikers, and actually attacking, rather than lumping it
Yes i know what you are saying about Browny but i dont know if he will be able to attract the top players whereby Collins has contacts on the continent from his time at Monaco. He was a top footballer and his Hibs team played attractive football so i would go for him plus i think he's still out of work from when he quit Hibs. Only problem is he aint a yes man so doubt Gartslime will go for him.
yeah hadnt thought about the contacts Collins would bring, and calibre of player he could then attract. yeah probably a better shout than Browny
thing is though do you really think anything will change at the reebok this summer??????? i think after the chelsea game ther will be a massive pr/propaganda exercise to brand this season as a success and megson a genius, which will make most fans forget about how badly run weve been, and well be in for more of the same next season
id love to see these managerial changes but i cant see them happening, unless someone takes over the club, and i cant see much fact in these consortium rumours
Posted by: Lancashire73, Bolton on 11:52am Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]Camposcomb[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Only one Andy Walker[/bold] wrote: Allardyce is right when he say's " It will be great if they survive but that’s not achievement. They should have been much higher up the table". [/quote] spot on..we have gone from being he FIFTH most consistant side in the premership to relegation fodder in one season.[/quote] Just have a look at the sides in the top half. How are Bolton really going to compete with them? We may have pulled it of for a few exceptional seasons but many sides have done that(remember Ipswich, Norwich, even Reading...) - it doesn't mean that it is going to continue forever. Some people can't just accept that we've had it great but in real terms we are not a top half of the Prem side. 16 of the 20 sides in the Prem are based in a city, Wigan, Blackburn and Middlesbrough have rich owners - where does that leave us? Your 'customer' base makes a massive difference. We struggle to fill the stadium even for big games. I wasn't too keen on Megson when he arrived but he has done his job - some still keep jibbering about luck and buys... In terms of points per game, if Megson had the same ratio from the start of the season we would be 12th - that is not a failure. Gladly, many of the moaners on here won't be there next year(according to them) - that's great, see you at the big matches. It is a shame that you can't be a bit bigger about it and say I don't rate him but he has done his job and has earned the chance to be manager next year. You just stay a home on match days and sharpen your knives.
Camposcomb wrote:
Only one Andy Walker wrote: Allardyce is right when he say's " It will be great if they survive but that’s not achievement. They should have been much higher up the table".
spot on..we have gone from being he FIFTH most consistant side in the premership to relegation fodder in one season.
Just have a look at the sides in the top half. How are Bolton really going to compete with them? We may have pulled it of for a few exceptional seasons but many sides have done that(remember Ipswich, Norwich, even Reading...) - it doesn't mean that it is going to continue forever. Some people can't just accept that we've had it great but in real terms we are not a top half of the Prem side. 16 of the 20 sides in the Prem are based in a city, Wigan, Blackburn and Middlesbrough have rich owners - where does that leave us? Your 'customer' base makes a massive difference. We struggle to fill the stadium even for big games. I wasn't too keen on Megson when he arrived but he has done his job - some still keep jibbering about luck and buys... In terms of points per game, if Megson had the same ratio from the start of the season we would be 12th - that is not a failure. Gladly, many of the moaners on here won't be there next year(according to them) - that's great, see you at the big matches. It is a shame that you can't be a bit bigger about it and say I don't rate him but he has done his job and has earned the chance to be manager next year. You just stay a home on match days and sharpen your knives.
Posted by: Julie Moores, Bolton on 12:00pm Mon 5 May 08
And why dont you admit, Lancashire 73, that he isnt up to the job, has made almost disatrous mistakes, and is one of football's losers.
You must be so easily satisfied and set yourself few standards in life if you will settle for that.
And why dont you admit, Lancashire 73, that he isnt up to the job, has made almost disatrous mistakes, and is one of football's losers.
You must be so easily satisfied and set yourself few standards in life if you will settle for that.
Posted by: matty_c, Bolton on 12:06pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]Lancashire73[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Camposcomb[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Only one Andy Walker[/bold] wrote: Allardyce is right when he say's " It will be great if they survive but that’s not achievement. They should have been much higher up the table". [/quote] spot on..we have gone from being he FIFTH most consistant side in the premership to relegation fodder in one season.[/quote] Just have a look at the sides in the top half. How are Bolton really going to compete with them? We may have pulled it of for a few exceptional seasons but many sides have done that(remember Ipswich, Norwich, even Reading...) - it doesn't mean that it is going to continue forever. Some people can't just accept that we've had it great but in real terms we are not a top half of the Prem side. 16 of the 20 sides in the Prem are based in a city, Wigan, Blackburn and Middlesbrough have rich owners - where does that leave us? Your 'customer' base makes a massive difference. We struggle to fill the stadium even for big games. I wasn't too keen on Megson when he arrived but he has done his job - some still keep jibbering about luck and buys... In terms of points per game, if Megson had the same ratio from the start of the season we would be 12th - that is not a failure. Gladly, many of the moaners on here won't be there next year(according to them) - that's great, see you at the big matches. It is a shame that you can't be a bit bigger about it and say I don't rate him but he has done his job and has earned the chance to be manager next year. You just stay a home on match days and sharpen your knives. [/quote] spot on mate some fans seem to have the delusions that we should be permananly challenging europe each season, it is pretty **** obvious we have overachived each season which isnt a bad thing but we were tested this year and have done what someone like charlton couldnt we survived when a long term manager moved on , the same long term manager who came out spouting off about us underachieving well ive only one thing to say to you sam and thats its partly you fault we were in his mess and your barbed comments before the sunderland game didnt help either so just keep you mouth shut before you end up looking like more of a fool than you do already. regardless though with a big cash injection off the board in the pre-season we have the potential to challenge for top 10 and reallistically that should be our target next year.
Lancashire73 wrote:
Camposcomb wrote: Only one Andy Walker wrote: Allardyce is right when he say's " It will be great if they survive but that’s not achievement. They should have been much higher up the table".
spot on..we have gone from being he FIFTH most consistant side in the premership to relegation fodder in one season.
Just have a look at the sides in the top half. How are Bolton really going to compete with them? We may have pulled it of for a few exceptional seasons but many sides have done that(remember Ipswich, Norwich, even Reading...) - it doesn't mean that it is going to continue forever. Some people can't just accept that we've had it great but in real terms we are not a top half of the Prem side. 16 of the 20 sides in the Prem are based in a city, Wigan, Blackburn and Middlesbrough have rich owners - where does that leave us? Your 'customer' base makes a massive difference. We struggle to fill the stadium even for big games. I wasn't too keen on Megson when he arrived but he has done his job - some still keep jibbering about luck and buys... In terms of points per game, if Megson had the same ratio from the start of the season we would be 12th - that is not a failure. Gladly, many of the moaners on here won't be there next year(according to them) - that's great, see you at the big matches. It is a shame that you can't be a bit bigger about it and say I don't rate him but he has done his job and has earned the chance to be manager next year. You just stay a home on match days and sharpen your knives.
spot on mate some fans seem to have the delusions that we should be permananly challenging europe each season, it is pretty **** obvious we have overachived each season which isnt a bad thing but we were tested this year and have done what someone like charlton couldnt we survived when a long term manager moved on , the same long term manager who came out spouting off about us underachieving well ive only one thing to say to you sam and thats its partly you fault we were in his mess and your barbed comments before the sunderland game didnt help either so just keep you mouth shut before you end up looking like more of a fool than you do already. regardless though with a big cash injection off the board in the pre-season we have the potential to challenge for top 10 and reallistically that should be our target next year.
Posted by: King Cain, Bolton on 12:08pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]Lancashire73[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Camposcomb[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Only one Andy Walker[/bold] wrote: Allardyce is right when he say's " It will be great if they survive but that’s not achievement. They should have been much higher up the table". [/quote] spot on..we have gone from being he FIFTH most consistant side in the premership to relegation fodder in one season.[/quote] Just have a look at the sides in the top half. How are Bolton really going to compete with them? We may have pulled it of for a few exceptional seasons but many sides have done that(remember Ipswich, Norwich, even Reading...) - it doesn't mean that it is going to continue forever. Some people can't just accept that we've had it great but in real terms we are not a top half of the Prem side. 16 of the 20 sides in the Prem are based in a city, Wigan, Blackburn and Middlesbrough have rich owners - where does that leave us? Your 'customer' base makes a massive difference. We struggle to fill the stadium even for big games. I wasn't too keen on Megson when he arrived but he has done his job - some still keep jibbering about luck and buys... In terms of points per game, if Megson had the same ratio from the start of the season we would be 12th - that is not a failure. Gladly, many of the moaners on here won't be there next year(according to them) - that's great, see you at the big matches. It is a shame that you can't be a bit bigger about it and say I don't rate him but he has done his job and has earned the chance to be manager next year. You just stay a home on match days and sharpen your knives. [/quote] Blackburn dont have a rich owner. It is true that there are a lot of fans that have jumped on the bandwagon when we went up to the Prem coinciding with the move to the Reebok, the crowds only started to dwindle in the last couple of years which i feel was as a result of the standard of football going down year on year along with the fans having had enough of the owner and chairman. There are a lot of fans out there that have fallen out with the club for a number of reasons, Burnden, Under investment, Gartsides comments about fans, Gartside's lies, Carling cup final, some fans losing thousands on shares. I honestly feel that if the club was sold we had fresh owners a new manager (John Collins) spent not a great deal but a fair amount - a gesture to the fans 'we are spending now so come and support us' then i honestly feel that the Reebok would be packed every week and a lot of those fans who have fell out with the club over the years would come back. We will never be a big club we all know that but we have potential to be bigger than we are and with shrewd managership and ownership can be an established side that finishes 6th-12th giving us the security of being a team that can try and win some cups.
Lancashire73 wrote:
Camposcomb wrote: Only one Andy Walker wrote: Allardyce is right when he say's " It will be great if they survive but that’s not achievement. They should have been much higher up the table".
spot on..we have gone from being he FIFTH most consistant side in the premership to relegation fodder in one season.
Just have a look at the sides in the top half. How are Bolton really going to compete with them? We may have pulled it of for a few exceptional seasons but many sides have done that(remember Ipswich, Norwich, even Reading...) - it doesn't mean that it is going to continue forever. Some people can't just accept that we've had it great but in real terms we are not a top half of the Prem side. 16 of the 20 sides in the Prem are based in a city, Wigan, Blackburn and Middlesbrough have rich owners - where does that leave us? Your 'customer' base makes a massive difference. We struggle to fill the stadium even for big games. I wasn't too keen on Megson when he arrived but he has done his job - some still keep jibbering about luck and buys... In terms of points per game, if Megson had the same ratio from the start of the season we would be 12th - that is not a failure. Gladly, many of the moaners on here won't be there next year(according to them) - that's great, see you at the big matches. It is a shame that you can't be a bit bigger about it and say I don't rate him but he has done his job and has earned the chance to be manager next year. You just stay a home on match days and sharpen your knives.
Blackburn dont have a rich owner. It is true that there are a lot of fans that have jumped on the bandwagon when we went up to the Prem coinciding with the move to the Reebok, the crowds only started to dwindle in the last couple of years which i feel was as a result of the standard of football going down year on year along with the fans having had enough of the owner and chairman. There are a lot of fans out there that have fallen out with the club for a number of reasons, Burnden, Under investment, Gartsides comments about fans, Gartside's lies, Carling cup final, some fans losing thousands on shares. I honestly feel that if the club was sold we had fresh owners a new manager (John Collins) spent not a great deal but a fair amount - a gesture to the fans 'we are spending now so come and support us' then i honestly feel that the Reebok would be packed every week and a lot of those fans who have fell out with the club over the years would come back. We will never be a big club we all know that but we have potential to be bigger than we are and with shrewd managership and ownership can be an established side that finishes 6th-12th giving us the security of being a team that can try and win some cups.
Posted by: Lancashire73, Bolton on 12:15pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]Julie Moores[/bold] wrote:
And why dont you admit, Lancashire 73, that he isnt up to the job, has made almost disatrous mistakes, and is one of football's losers. You must be so easily satisfied and set yourself few standards in life if you will settle for that.[/quote] We don't know whether he is up to the job do we Julie? Fact is (as stated before) - in terms of points per game, over the season we would be 12th. If that includes 'disatrous mistakes' then that's fine. If you think a manager you performs worse than that should be sacked - you better get ready to change manager every season. You must be perfect Julie cause you pick up faults in everyone. Won't matter to you anymore cause you won't be there next season?
Julie Moores wrote:
And why dont you admit, Lancashire 73, that he isnt up to the job, has made almost disatrous mistakes, and is one of football's losers. You must be so easily satisfied and set yourself few standards in life if you will settle for that.
We don't know whether he is up to the job do we Julie? Fact is (as stated before) - in terms of points per game, over the season we would be 12th. If that includes 'disatrous mistakes' then that's fine. If you think a manager you performs worse than that should be sacked - you better get ready to change manager every season. You must be perfect Julie cause you pick up faults in everyone. Won't matter to you anymore cause you won't be there next season?
Posted by: Julie Moores, Bolton on 12:18pm Mon 5 May 08
No problem with you having an optimisic view. At least you know what to expect next season. Half full Reebok, early cup exits, negative, boring football.
No problem with you having an optimisic view. At least you know what to expect next season. Half full Reebok, early cup exits, negative, boring football.
Posted by: Lancashire73, Bolton on 12:20pm Mon 5 May 08
King Cain I was going to read your comment but couldn't get past the first sentence. Okay Jack Walker is not alive but it would be fair to say that he was financially a bit of an advantage.(Just ignore the other 18 teams too.)
King Cain I was going to read your comment but couldn't get past the first sentence. Okay Jack Walker is not alive but it would be fair to say that he was financially a bit of an advantage.(Just ignore the other 18 teams too.)
Posted by: Lancashire73, Bolton on 12:25pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]Julie Moores[/bold] wrote:
No problem with you having an optimisic view. At least you know what to expect next season. Half full Reebok, early cup exits, negative, boring football. [/quote] Can't wait. Your criteria for not going is brilliant. I don't like the manager or the chairman so I'm not going. How many teams get relegated but the fans love the manager and chairman? Therefore, Relegation = I'm not going. hmm.
Julie Moores wrote:
No problem with you having an optimisic view. At least you know what to expect next season. Half full Reebok, early cup exits, negative, boring football.
Can't wait. Your criteria for not going is brilliant. I don't like the manager or the chairman so I'm not going. How many teams get relegated but the fans love the manager and chairman? Therefore, Relegation = I'm not going. hmm.
Posted by: Julie Moores, Bolton on 12:28pm Mon 5 May 08
I think you might find I,m not the only one when it comes to renewal time, but obviously we're all wrong. You could get the " Ginger Mourinho " Choir going again when the rest of us have left- lol.
I think you might find I,m not the only one when it comes to renewal time, but obviously we're all wrong. You could get the " Ginger Mourinho " Choir going again when the rest of us have left- lol.
Posted by: Lancashire73, Bolton on 12:32pm Mon 5 May 08
I really hope you are not the only one. They will be watching from the sofa too, so they can keep their opinion to themselves. I wasn't that keen on Phil Neal and Warbies bread sometimes sticks in my throat but it has never stopped me going - that's how it is being a football fan. Don't worry I'll be singing, 'We can see you sneaking in' when we play the big games.
I really hope you are not the only one. They will be watching from the sofa too, so they can keep their opinion to themselves. I wasn't that keen on Phil Neal and Warbies bread sometimes sticks in my throat but it has never stopped me going - that's how it is being a football fan. Don't worry I'll be singing, 'We can see you sneaking in' when we play the big games.
Posted by: il duce, bolton on 12:34pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]Julie Moores[/bold] wrote:
I think you might find I,m not the only one when it comes to renewal time, but obviously we're all wrong. You could get the " Ginger Mourinho " Choir going again when the rest of us have left- lol.[/quote] ill back you up on the not renewing theme. until the current management are gone ill not be attending the reebok again. when i watch the whites i expect to see a team that is at least trying to play some football, but theres been none of that on show this season. games are so boring i doubt ill be missing anything
Julie Moores wrote:
I think you might find I,m not the only one when it comes to renewal time, but obviously we're all wrong. You could get the " Ginger Mourinho " Choir going again when the rest of us have left- lol.
ill back you up on the not renewing theme. until the current management are gone ill not be attending the reebok again. when i watch the whites i expect to see a team that is at least trying to play some football, but theres been none of that on show this season. games are so boring i doubt ill be missing anything
Posted by: Lancashire73, Bolton on 12:36pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]il duce[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Julie Moores[/bold] wrote: I think you might find I,m not the only one when it comes to renewal time, but obviously we're all wrong. You could get the " Ginger Mourinho " Choir going again when the rest of us have left- lol.[/quote] ill back you up on the not renewing theme. until the current management are gone ill not be attending the reebok again. when i watch the whites i expect to see a team that is at least trying to play some football, but theres been none of that on show this season. games are so boring i doubt ill be missing anything[/quote] Cause watching Big Sam's team was like watching Brazil in 1970.
il duce wrote:
Julie Moores wrote: I think you might find I,m not the only one when it comes to renewal time, but obviously we're all wrong. You could get the " Ginger Mourinho " Choir going again when the rest of us have left- lol.
ill back you up on the not renewing theme. until the current management are gone ill not be attending the reebok again. when i watch the whites i expect to see a team that is at least trying to play some football, but theres been none of that on show this season. games are so boring i doubt ill be missing anything
Cause watching Big Sam's team was like watching Brazil in 1970.
Posted by: Andy W, Cumbria on 12:41pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]il duce[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Julie Moores[/bold] wrote: I think you might find I,m not the only one when it comes to renewal time, but obviously we're all wrong. You could get the " Ginger Mourinho " Choir going again when the rest of us have left- lol.[/quote] ill back you up on the not renewing theme. until the current management are gone ill not be attending the reebok again. when i watch the whites i expect to see a team that is at least trying to play some football, but theres been none of that on show this season. games are so boring i doubt ill be missing anything[/quote] Good. lets get down to the core of true fans again and build from there. Those with that attitude can try and get a ticket for Old Trafford. Bye now. We won't miss you.
(When did fans stop understanding what a fan is?)
il duce wrote:
Julie Moores wrote: I think you might find I,m not the only one when it comes to renewal time, but obviously we're all wrong. You could get the " Ginger Mourinho " Choir going again when the rest of us have left- lol.
ill back you up on the not renewing theme. until the current management are gone ill not be attending the reebok again. when i watch the whites i expect to see a team that is at least trying to play some football, but theres been none of that on show this season. games are so boring i doubt ill be missing anything
Good. lets get down to the core of true fans again and build from there. Those with that attitude can try and get a ticket for Old Trafford. Bye now. We won't miss you.
(When did fans stop understanding what a fan is?)
Posted by: Lancashire73, Bolton on 12:45pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]Andy W[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]il duce[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Julie Moores[/bold] wrote: I think you might find I,m not the only one when it comes to renewal time, but obviously we're all wrong. You could get the " Ginger Mourinho " Choir going again when the rest of us have left- lol.[/quote] ill back you up on the not renewing theme. until the current management are gone ill not be attending the reebok again. when i watch the whites i expect to see a team that is at least trying to play some football, but theres been none of that on show this season. games are so boring i doubt ill be missing anything[/quote] Good. lets get down to the core of true fans again and build from there. Those with that attitude can try and get a ticket for Old Trafford. Bye now. We won't miss you. (When did fans stop understanding what a fan is?)[/quote] Absolutely. Once again Cumbria shows us the way - must be that Jennings Bitter.
Andy W wrote:
il duce wrote: Julie Moores wrote: I think you might find I,m not the only one when it comes to renewal time, but obviously we're all wrong. You could get the " Ginger Mourinho " Choir going again when the rest of us have left- lol.
ill back you up on the not renewing theme. until the current management are gone ill not be attending the reebok again. when i watch the whites i expect to see a team that is at least trying to play some football, but theres been none of that on show this season. games are so boring i doubt ill be missing anything
Good. lets get down to the core of true fans again and build from there. Those with that attitude can try and get a ticket for Old Trafford. Bye now. We won't miss you. (When did fans stop understanding what a fan is?)
Absolutely. Once again Cumbria shows us the way - must be that Jennings Bitter.
Posted by: Julie Moores, Bolton on 12:48pm Mon 5 May 08
Or the sheep!!
Posted by: steve, bolton on 12:51pm Mon 5 May 08
The novelty of the Reebok has worn off and many fans who got their first season tickets on the back of that won't renew.
No great disaster, there were far fewer season ticket holders at Burnden.
The strategy should now be to reduce matchday prices to entice the working man supporter back as the experiment with family packages has proved a failure.These people see football as a theatre-like experience where they sit back to be "entertained"
The traditional Bolton supporter goes to see a war where the players have a win at all costs mentality and battle to the end.Lofthouse, Hartle, Banks,Allardyce and now Megson.
The novelty of the Reebok has worn off and many fans who got their first season tickets on the back of that won't renew.
No great disaster, there were far fewer season ticket holders at Burnden.
The strategy should now be to reduce matchday prices to entice the working man supporter back as the experiment with family packages has proved a failure.These people see football as a theatre-like experience where they sit back to be "entertained"
The traditional Bolton supporter goes to see a war where the players have a win at all costs mentality and battle to the end.Lofthouse, Hartle, Banks,Allardyce and now Megson.
Posted by: Lancashire73, Bolton on 12:57pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]Julie Moores[/bold] wrote:
Or the sheep!![/quote] You still here?
Julie Moores wrote:
Or the sheep!!
You still here?
Posted by: Julie Moores, Bolton on 1:03pm Mon 5 May 08
Awww, Lancashire 73, you know you enjoy a good weekend in Kendal with your wellies.
Was it you who asked the farmer if he was shearing, and he said " No, go find your own "
Awww, Lancashire 73, you know you enjoy a good weekend in Kendal with your wellies.
Was it you who asked the farmer if he was shearing, and he said " No, go find your own "
Posted by: Bolton Blogger, Bolt on 1:08pm Mon 5 May 08
People,
As I about to be banned from this website due to spamming it a few weeks ago because I was sick to death of being bullied whilst the paper took NO ACTION here goes - and yet the papaers see free and easy to close these comments at a small whim!
I have never liked Megson, he is completely the wrong person for the job - very negative etc...
Gartside - again I have NEVER liked before during and after Allardyce. The sooner this joker goes the better.
To the playing lads - good luck for the future and may the Whites be with you!!!
TO all the people on here - good luck for the future, I will still read your comments, but unfortunately will not be able to debate any further - such as shame. (esp to the likes of Julie, Breezblock, Munich, Il Duce, King Cain)
People,
As I about to be banned from this website due to spamming it a few weeks ago because I was sick to death of being bullied whilst the paper took NO ACTION here goes - and yet the papaers see free and easy to close these comments at a small whim!
I have never liked Megson, he is completely the wrong person for the job - very negative etc...
Gartside - again I have NEVER liked before during and after Allardyce. The sooner this joker goes the better.
To the playing lads - good luck for the future and may the Whites be with you!!!
TO all the people on here - good luck for the future, I will still read your comments, but unfortunately will not be able to debate any further - such as shame. (esp to the likes of Julie, Breezblock, Munich, Il Duce, King Cain)
Posted by: ad_bwfc, Essex on 1:15pm Mon 5 May 08
am gonna try go to boltons trainin ground on wednesday or thursday to try get some autographys like diouf and jussi!
does anyone know what road its on?
and do the players actually stop and sign and what time do they usually come out ?!
any help much appreciated!
am gonna try go to boltons trainin ground on wednesday or thursday to try get some autographys like diouf and jussi!
does anyone know what road its on?
and do the players actually stop and sign and what time do they usually come out ?!
any help much appreciated!
Posted by: joanna on 1:25pm Mon 5 May 08
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Just a couple of comments because I do not want to rain on the parade. Joanna - best post on here for a long while (on the "we are staying up thread")and totally echoes my thoughts the morning after. You and Julie for the board! Looking forward to reading your report on the Chelsea game.
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Thanks, Pedro. To preserve my anonymity, I've given my name as "John" to The Bolton News, so the article on the Chelsea game will appear under that name.
Rather than a detailed report of the game, it will be more of an overall comment on the season and the way forward, as it seems to me.
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Posted by: Pedro, Bolton on 9:07am
Just a couple of comments because I do not want to rain on the parade. Joanna - best post on here for a long while (on the "we are staying up thread")and totally echoes my thoughts the morning after. You and Julie for the board! Looking forward to reading your report on the Chelsea game.
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Thanks, Pedro. To preserve my anonymity, I've given my name as "John" to The Bolton News, so the article on the Chelsea game will appear under that name.
Rather than a detailed report of the game, it will be more of an overall comment on the season and the way forward, as it seems to me.
Posted by: trottersforever, bolton on 2:04pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]Lancashire73[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Camposcomb[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Only one Andy Walker[/bold] wrote: Allardyce is right when he say's " It will be great if they survive but that’s not achievement. They should have been much higher up the table". [/quote] spot on..we have gone from being he FIFTH most consistant side in the premership to relegation fodder in one season.[/quote] Just have a look at the sides in the top half. How are Bolton really going to compete with them? We may have pulled it of for a few exceptional seasons but many sides have done that(remember Ipswich, Norwich, even Reading...) - it doesn't mean that it is going to continue forever. Some people can't just accept that we've had it great but in real terms we are not a top half of the Prem side. 16 of the 20 sides in the Prem are based in a city, Wigan, Blackburn and Middlesbrough have rich owners - where does that leave us? Your 'customer' base makes a massive difference. We struggle to fill the stadium even for big games. I wasn't too keen on Megson when he arrived but he has done his job - some still keep jibbering about luck and buys... In terms of points per game, if Megson had the same ratio from the start of the season we would be 12th - that is not a failure. Gladly, many of the moaners on here won't be there next year(according to them) - that's great, see you at the big matches. It is a shame that you can't be a bit bigger about it and say I don't rate him but he has done his job and has earned the chance to be manager next year. You just stay a home on match days and sharpen your knives. [/quote] totally agree. i don't mind ppl being negative as long as it's constructive and realistic.
but plenty on here aren't constructive.
Lancashire73 wrote:
Camposcomb wrote: Only one Andy Walker wrote: Allardyce is right when he say's " It will be great if they survive but that’s not achievement. They should have been much higher up the table".
spot on..we have gone from being he FIFTH most consistant side in the premership to relegation fodder in one season.
Just have a look at the sides in the top half. How are Bolton really going to compete with them? We may have pulled it of for a few exceptional seasons but many sides have done that(remember Ipswich, Norwich, even Reading...) - it doesn't mean that it is going to continue forever. Some people can't just accept that we've had it great but in real terms we are not a top half of the Prem side. 16 of the 20 sides in the Prem are based in a city, Wigan, Blackburn and Middlesbrough have rich owners - where does that leave us? Your 'customer' base makes a massive difference. We struggle to fill the stadium even for big games. I wasn't too keen on Megson when he arrived but he has done his job - some still keep jibbering about luck and buys... In terms of points per game, if Megson had the same ratio from the start of the season we would be 12th - that is not a failure. Gladly, many of the moaners on here won't be there next year(according to them) - that's great, see you at the big matches. It is a shame that you can't be a bit bigger about it and say I don't rate him but he has done his job and has earned the chance to be manager next year. You just stay a home on match days and sharpen your knives.
totally agree. i don't mind ppl being negative as long as it's constructive and realistic.
but plenty on here aren't constructive.
Posted by: trotters1964, preston on 2:47pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]ad_bwfc[/bold] wrote:
am gonna try go to boltons trainin ground on wednesday or thursday to try get some autographys like diouf and jussi! does anyone know what road its on? and do the players actually stop and sign and what time do they usually come out ?! any help much appreciated![/quote] you will have a long walk from the reebok, its euxton, you could just buy an autographed item through the website as the club got sick of people conning them and putting them on ebay!
ad_bwfc wrote:
am gonna try go to boltons trainin ground on wednesday or thursday to try get some autographys like diouf and jussi! does anyone know what road its on? and do the players actually stop and sign and what time do they usually come out ?! any help much appreciated!
you will have a long walk from the reebok, its euxton, you could just buy an autographed item through the website as the club got sick of people conning them and putting them on ebay!
Posted by: MICK, BOLTON on 4:13pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]Lancashire73[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Julie Moores[/bold] wrote: And why dont you admit, Lancashire 73, that he isnt up to the job, has made almost disatrous mistakes, and is one of football's losers. You must be so easily satisfied and set yourself few standards in life if you will settle for that.[/quote] We don't know whether he is up to the job do we Julie? Fact is (as stated before) - in terms of points per game, over the season we would be 12th. If that includes 'disatrous mistakes' then that's fine. If you think a manager you performs worse than that should be sacked - you better get ready to change manager every season. You must be perfect Julie cause you pick up faults in everyone. Won't matter to you anymore cause you won't be there next season? [/quote] Ok I know for a fact that the players had a meeting 4 games ago about tactics and the way the side was playing.
Since the [bold]PLAYERS[/bold] meeting they haven't lost so take 10pts off megsons total from the 36 and take the 5pts that lsl got makes 21pts now divide that by 24 games now times that by 38 and what do you get???
33pts
Lancashire73 wrote:
Julie Moores wrote: And why dont you admit, Lancashire 73, that he isnt up to the job, has made almost disatrous mistakes, and is one of football's losers. You must be so easily satisfied and set yourself few standards in life if you will settle for that.
We don't know whether he is up to the job do we Julie? Fact is (as stated before) - in terms of points per game, over the season we would be 12th. If that includes 'disatrous mistakes' then that's fine. If you think a manager you performs worse than that should be sacked - you better get ready to change manager every season. You must be perfect Julie cause you pick up faults in everyone. Won't matter to you anymore cause you won't be there next season?
Ok I know for a fact that the players had a meeting 4 games ago about tactics and the way the side was playing.
Since the
PLAYERS meeting they haven't lost so take 10pts off megsons total from the 36 and take the 5pts that lsl got makes 21pts now divide that by 24 games now times that by 38 and what do you get???
33pts
Posted by: MICK, BOLTON on 4:30pm Mon 5 May 08
on the same principle with goals 20 for 36 against in 24 games so over 38 games it would read
32 for 57 against
thats a gd of -25 and thats 7 worse than now.
on the same principle with goals 20 for 36 against in 24 games so over 38 games it would read
32 for 57 against
thats a gd of -25 and thats 7 worse than now.
Posted by: bignut, bolton on 4:32pm Mon 5 May 08
Don't wish to disapoint all you Megson callers but he has acheived what he was employed for,that is keeping us up,albeit by the skin of his teeth,but now he deserves at least the 1st 10 games of next season to see if there is any improvement on this season,if there is, well credit to him,15 plus points in these games would guarentee him more time,i for one would wish him luck because you never know we could be the team that he makes successful,credit to everyone involved with BWFC for the last 4 games to pull a miracle off.COME ON YOU WHITES.....
Don't wish to disapoint all you Megson callers but he has acheived what he was employed for,that is keeping us up,albeit by the skin of his teeth,but now he deserves at least the 1st 10 games of next season to see if there is any improvement on this season,if there is, well credit to him,15 plus points in these games would guarentee him more time,i for one would wish him luck because you never know we could be the team that he makes successful,credit to everyone involved with BWFC for the last 4 games to pull a miracle off.COME ON YOU WHITES.....
Posted by: Jon W, westhoughton on 5:03pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]il duce[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]King Cain[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]il duce[/bold] wrote: [bold]King Cain[/bold] - agree with you on the new manager fron. John Collins is a good shout, but what about Phil Brown (assuming Hull dont get promoted) Hes a bolton lad and the football hes got Hull playing is terrific. In a poor division hes gone against the grain of 1 up front and lumping it, instead opting for fast attacking football. How good would it be to see the wanderers with two wingers, and strikers, and actually attacking, rather than lumping it[/quote] Yes i know what you are saying about Browny but i dont know if he will be able to attract the top players whereby Collins has contacts on the continent from his time at Monaco. He was a top footballer and his Hibs team played attractive football so i would go for him plus i think he's still out of work from when he quit Hibs. Only problem is he aint a yes man so doubt Gartslime will go for him.[/quote] yeah hadnt thought about the contacts Collins would bring, and calibre of player he could then attract. yeah probably a better shout than Browny thing is though do you really think anything will change at the reebok this summer??????? i think after the chelsea game ther will be a massive pr/propaganda exercise to brand this season as a success and megson a genius, which will make most fans forget about how badly run weve been, and well be in for more of the same next season id love to see these managerial changes but i cant see them happening, unless someone takes over the club, and i cant see much fact in these consortium rumours[/quote] I dont think there will be any massive propaganda exercise - that would imply thought, care and effort. There will be silence. We MIGHT get reduced season ticket prices in a desperate attempt to keep a majority of fans, but we wont get anything else from the club, it will be quiet as usual and Megson will just carry on as if there is no issue to be discussed.
il duce wrote:
King Cain wrote: il duce wrote: King Cain - agree with you on the new manager fron. John Collins is a good shout, but what about Phil Brown (assuming Hull dont get promoted) Hes a bolton lad and the football hes got Hull playing is terrific. In a poor division hes gone against the grain of 1 up front and lumping it, instead opting for fast attacking football. How good would it be to see the wanderers with two wingers, and strikers, and actually attacking, rather than lumping it
Yes i know what you are saying about Browny but i dont know if he will be able to attract the top players whereby Collins has contacts on the continent from his time at Monaco. He was a top footballer and his Hibs team played attractive football so i would go for him plus i think he's still out of work from when he quit Hibs. Only problem is he aint a yes man so doubt Gartslime will go for him.
yeah hadnt thought about the contacts Collins would bring, and calibre of player he could then attract. yeah probably a better shout than Browny thing is though do you really think anything will change at the reebok this summer??????? i think after the chelsea game ther will be a massive pr/propaganda exercise to brand this season as a success and megson a genius, which will make most fans forget about how badly run weve been, and well be in for more of the same next season id love to see these managerial changes but i cant see them happening, unless someone takes over the club, and i cant see much fact in these consortium rumours
I dont think there will be any massive propaganda exercise - that would imply thought, care and effort. There will be silence. We MIGHT get reduced season ticket prices in a desperate attempt to keep a majority of fans, but we wont get anything else from the club, it will be quiet as usual and Megson will just carry on as if there is no issue to be discussed.
Posted by: trotters1964, preston on 5:05pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]bignut[/bold] wrote:
Don't wish to disapoint all you Megson callers but he has acheived what he was employed for,that is keeping us up,albeit by the skin of his teeth,but now he deserves at least the 1st 10 games of next season to see if there is any improvement on this season,if there is, well credit to him,15 plus points in these games would guarentee him more time,i for one would wish him luck because you never know we could be the team that he makes successful,credit to everyone involved with BWFC for the last 4 games to pull a miracle off.COME ON YOU WHITES..... [/quote] i'm in the anti megson camp and to change now would unsettle things we need to see how the summer transfer window pans out and give him 10 matches the same as lsl, if it mirrors his previous record we will be back in the bottom 3 which i think all would agree would not be acceptable.
bignut wrote:
Don't wish to disapoint all you Megson callers but he has acheived what he was employed for,that is keeping us up,albeit by the skin of his teeth,but now he deserves at least the 1st 10 games of next season to see if there is any improvement on this season,if there is, well credit to him,15 plus points in these games would guarentee him more time,i for one would wish him luck because you never know we could be the team that he makes successful,credit to everyone involved with BWFC for the last 4 games to pull a miracle off.COME ON YOU WHITES.....
i'm in the anti megson camp and to change now would unsettle things we need to see how the summer transfer window pans out and give him 10 matches the same as lsl, if it mirrors his previous record we will be back in the bottom 3 which i think all would agree would not be acceptable.
Posted by: kimberley-bwfc 4 ever, westhoughton on 5:12pm Mon 5 May 08
i am a junior white and i was just wondering if anyone knows which players are going to the end of season party tomorrow...?
i am a junior white and i was just wondering if anyone knows which players are going to the end of season party tomorrow...?
Posted by: ad_bwfc, Essex on 6:18pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]trotters1964[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]ad_bwfc[/bold] wrote: am gonna try go to boltons trainin ground on wednesday or thursday to try get some autographys like diouf and jussi! does anyone know what road its on? and do the players actually stop and sign and what time do they usually come out ?! any help much appreciated![/quote] you will have a long walk from the reebok, its euxton, you could just buy an autographed item through the website as the club got sick of people conning them and putting them on ebay![/quote] i'll be drivin buddy, im not gonna put it on ebay i just want to get jussi's and diouf's before they leave, its not the same buying them its better getting them yourself, do they stop??
trotters1964 wrote:
ad_bwfc wrote: am gonna try go to boltons trainin ground on wednesday or thursday to try get some autographys like diouf and jussi! does anyone know what road its on? and do the players actually stop and sign and what time do they usually come out ?! any help much appreciated!
you will have a long walk from the reebok, its euxton, you could just buy an autographed item through the website as the club got sick of people conning them and putting them on ebay!
i'll be drivin buddy, im not gonna put it on ebay i just want to get jussi's and diouf's before they leave, its not the same buying them its better getting them yourself, do they stop??
Posted by: kimberley-bwfc 4 ever, westhoughton on 6:22pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]ad_bwfc[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]trotters1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]ad_bwfc[/bold] wrote: am gonna try go to boltons trainin ground on wednesday or thursday to try get some autographys like diouf and jussi! does anyone know what road its on? and do the players actually stop and sign and what time do they usually come out ?! any help much appreciated![/quote] you will have a long walk from the reebok, its euxton, you could just buy an autographed item through the website as the club got sick of people conning them and putting them on ebay![/quote] i'll be drivin buddy, im not gonna put it on ebay i just want to get jussi's and diouf's before they leave, its not the same buying them its better getting them yourself, do they stop??[/quote] i dont know but why dont you just go to the end of season party tomorrow and if they are not there you can just go early, it is only £1 to get in if you are an adult.
ad_bwfc wrote:
trotters1964 wrote: ad_bwfc wrote: am gonna try go to boltons trainin ground on wednesday or thursday to try get some autographys like diouf and jussi! does anyone know what road its on? and do the players actually stop and sign and what time do they usually come out ?! any help much appreciated!
you will have a long walk from the reebok, its euxton, you could just buy an autographed item through the website as the club got sick of people conning them and putting them on ebay!
i'll be drivin buddy, im not gonna put it on ebay i just want to get jussi's and diouf's before they leave, its not the same buying them its better getting them yourself, do they stop??
i dont know but why dont you just go to the end of season party tomorrow and if they are not there you can just go early, it is only £1 to get in if you are an adult.
Posted by: ad_bwfc, Essex on 6:35pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]kimberley-bwfc 4 ever[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]ad_bwfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]trotters1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]ad_bwfc[/bold] wrote: am gonna try go to boltons trainin ground on wednesday or thursday to try get some autographys like diouf and jussi! does anyone know what road its on? and do the players actually stop and sign and what time do they usually come out ?! any help much appreciated![/quote] you will have a long walk from the reebok, its euxton, you could just buy an autographed item through the website as the club got sick of people conning them and putting them on ebay![/quote] i'll be drivin buddy, im not gonna put it on ebay i just want to get jussi's and diouf's before they leave, its not the same buying them its better getting them yourself, do they stop??[/quote] i dont know but why dont you just go to the end of season party tomorrow and if they are not there you can just go early, it is only £1 to get in if you are an adult.[/quote] im not gonna just turn up for a junior whites party on my own, am 22, they might think im a bit dodgy! good idea tho!
kimberley-bwfc 4 ever wrote:
ad_bwfc wrote: trotters1964 wrote: ad_bwfc wrote: am gonna try go to boltons trainin ground on wednesday or thursday to try get some autographys like diouf and jussi! does anyone know what road its on? and do the players actually stop and sign and what time do they usually come out ?! any help much appreciated!
you will have a long walk from the reebok, its euxton, you could just buy an autographed item through the website as the club got sick of people conning them and putting them on ebay!
i'll be drivin buddy, im not gonna put it on ebay i just want to get jussi's and diouf's before they leave, its not the same buying them its better getting them yourself, do they stop??
i dont know but why dont you just go to the end of season party tomorrow and if they are not there you can just go early, it is only £1 to get in if you are an adult.
im not gonna just turn up for a junior whites party on my own, am 22, they might think im a bit dodgy! good idea tho!
Posted by: trotters1964, preston on 6:37pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]kimberley-bwfc 4 ever[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]ad_bwfc[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]trotters1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]ad_bwfc[/bold] wrote: am gonna try go to boltons trainin ground on wednesday or thursday to try get some autographys like diouf and jussi! does anyone know what road its on? and do the players actually stop and sign and what time do they usually come out ?! any help much appreciated![/quote] you will have a long walk from the reebok, its euxton, you could just buy an autographed item through the website as the club got sick of people conning them and putting them on ebay![/quote] i'll be drivin buddy, im not gonna put it on ebay i just want to get jussi's and diouf's before they leave, its not the same buying them its better getting them yourself, do they stop??[/quote] i dont know but why dont you just go to the end of season party tomorrow and if they are not there you can just go early, it is only £1 to get in if you are an adult.[/quote] yes but you have to have a kid with you to get the autographs due to adults bringing entire wardrobes of shirts to sign!!
kimberley-bwfc 4 ever wrote:
ad_bwfc wrote: trotters1964 wrote: ad_bwfc wrote: am gonna try go to boltons trainin ground on wednesday or thursday to try get some autographys like diouf and jussi! does anyone know what road its on? and do the players actually stop and sign and what time do they usually come out ?! any help much appreciated!
you will have a long walk from the reebok, its euxton, you could just buy an autographed item through the website as the club got sick of people conning them and putting them on ebay!
i'll be drivin buddy, im not gonna put it on ebay i just want to get jussi's and diouf's before they leave, its not the same buying them its better getting them yourself, do they stop??
i dont know but why dont you just go to the end of season party tomorrow and if they are not there you can just go early, it is only £1 to get in if you are an adult.
yes but you have to have a kid with you to get the autographs due to adults bringing entire wardrobes of shirts to sign!!
Posted by: Only one Andy Walker, London on 7:05pm Mon 5 May 08
true fans love bwfc. true fans dislike megson. People who know fooball realise megsons not our man. the only way the club will change anything is if people stop going through the turnstyles. or stop buying seaso tickets because they don't listen to the true fans that love this massive historic club Bolton Wanderers.
You guys that love Megson go and support bury. Us true fans have some ambition.
trouble at mill lancashire73
true fans love bwfc. true fans dislike megson. People who know fooball realise megsons not our man. the only way the club will change anything is if people stop going through the turnstyles. or stop buying seaso tickets because they don't listen to the true fans that love this massive historic club Bolton Wanderers.
You guys that love Megson go and support bury. Us true fans have some ambition.
trouble at mill lancashire73
Posted by: Only one Andy Walker, London on 7:10pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]trotters1964[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]bignut[/bold] wrote:
Don't wish to disapoint all you Megson callers but he has acheived what he was employed for,that is keeping us up,albeit by the skin of his teeth,but now he deserves at least the 1st 10 games of next season to see if there is any improvement on this season,if there is, well credit to him,15 plus points in these games would guarentee him more time,i for one would wish him luck because you never know we could be the team that he makes successful,credit to everyone involved with BWFC for the last 4 games to pull a miracle off.COME ON YOU WHITES..... [/quote] i'm in the anti megson camp and to change now would unsettle things we need to see how the summer transfer window pans out and give him 10 matches the same as lsl, if it mirrors his previous record we will be back in the bottom 3 which i think all would agree would not be acceptable.[/quote] Lets allow megson to buy some proper **** players in the summer then give him 10 games to prove you megson lovers wrong.
megson = championship football and poor quality players.
Collins would do me with all his European contacts.
trotters1964 wrote:
bignut wrote:
Don't wish to disapoint all you Megson callers but he has acheived what he was employed for,that is keeping us up,albeit by the skin of his teeth,but now he deserves at least the 1st 10 games of next season to see if there is any improvement on this season,if there is, well credit to him,15 plus points in these games would guarentee him more time,i for one would wish him luck because you never know we could be the team that he makes successful,credit to everyone involved with BWFC for the last 4 games to pull a miracle off.COME ON YOU WHITES.....
i'm in the anti megson camp and to change now would unsettle things we need to see how the summer transfer window pans out and give him 10 matches the same as lsl, if it mirrors his previous record we will be back in the bottom 3 which i think all would agree would not be acceptable.
Lets allow megson to buy some proper **** players in the summer then give him 10 games to prove you megson lovers wrong.
megson = championship football and poor quality players.
Collins would do me with all his European contacts.
Posted by: Only one Andy Walker, London on 7:10pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]trotters1964[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]bignut[/bold] wrote:
Don't wish to disapoint all you Megson callers but he has acheived what he was employed for,that is keeping us up,albeit by the skin of his teeth,but now he deserves at least the 1st 10 games of next season to see if there is any improvement on this season,if there is, well credit to him,15 plus points in these games would guarentee him more time,i for one would wish him luck because you never know we could be the team that he makes successful,credit to everyone involved with BWFC for the last 4 games to pull a miracle off.COME ON YOU WHITES..... [/quote] i'm in the anti megson camp and to change now would unsettle things we need to see how the summer transfer window pans out and give him 10 matches the same as lsl, if it mirrors his previous record we will be back in the bottom 3 which i think all would agree would not be acceptable.[/quote] Lets allow megson to buy some proper **** players in the summer then give him 10 games to prove you megson lovers wrong.
megson = championship football and poor quality players.
Collins would do me with all his European contacts.
trotters1964 wrote:
bignut wrote:
Don't wish to disapoint all you Megson callers but he has acheived what he was employed for,that is keeping us up,albeit by the skin of his teeth,but now he deserves at least the 1st 10 games of next season to see if there is any improvement on this season,if there is, well credit to him,15 plus points in these games would guarentee him more time,i for one would wish him luck because you never know we could be the team that he makes successful,credit to everyone involved with BWFC for the last 4 games to pull a miracle off.COME ON YOU WHITES.....
i'm in the anti megson camp and to change now would unsettle things we need to see how the summer transfer window pans out and give him 10 matches the same as lsl, if it mirrors his previous record we will be back in the bottom 3 which i think all would agree would not be acceptable.
Lets allow megson to buy some proper **** players in the summer then give him 10 games to prove you megson lovers wrong.
megson = championship football and poor quality players.
Collins would do me with all his European contacts.
Posted by: Only one Andy Walker, London on 7:18pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]steve[/bold] wrote:
The novelty of the Reebok has worn off and many fans who got their first season tickets on the back of that won't renew.
No great disaster, there were far fewer season ticket holders at Burnden.
The strategy should now be to reduce matchday prices to entice the working man supporter back as the experiment with family packages has proved a failure.These people see football as a theatre-like experience where they sit back to be "entertained"
The traditional Bolton supporter goes to see a war where the players have a win at all costs mentality and battle to the end.Lofthouse, Hartle, Banks,Allardyce and now Megson.
[/quote] steve your are hilarious. Megson is scream and shout but the players don't listen to him. he has no respect in the dressing room. nolan likes him because megson believes nolan's a great player. we the real bwfc fans know otherwise.
megson is a very poor manager and if you can't see that then we don't want your sort down at the reebok. We love this club and need to stop the rott. Nothing was done when sammy lee took over and look where we are. we need to oust gartside and megson and get the atmosphere around the club like we had under bruce Rioch.
fantastic.
come on you whites lets get this gimp out the club before it's too late.
steve wrote:
The novelty of the Reebok has worn off and many fans who got their first season tickets on the back of that won't renew.
No great disaster, there were far fewer season ticket holders at Burnden.
The strategy should now be to reduce matchday prices to entice the working man supporter back as the experiment with family packages has proved a failure.These people see football as a theatre-like experience where they sit back to be "entertained"
The traditional Bolton supporter goes to see a war where the players have a win at all costs mentality and battle to the end.Lofthouse, Hartle, Banks,Allardyce and now Megson.
steve your are hilarious. Megson is scream and shout but the players don't listen to him. he has no respect in the dressing room. nolan likes him because megson believes nolan's a great player. we the real bwfc fans know otherwise.
megson is a very poor manager and if you can't see that then we don't want your sort down at the reebok. We love this club and need to stop the rott. Nothing was done when sammy lee took over and look where we are. we need to oust gartside and megson and get the atmosphere around the club like we had under bruce Rioch.
fantastic.
come on you whites lets get this gimp out the club before it's too late.
Posted by: matty_c, Bolton on 7:22pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]Only one Andy Walker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]trotters1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]bignut[/bold] wrote: Don't wish to disapoint all you Megson callers but he has acheived what he was employed for,that is keeping us up,albeit by the skin of his teeth,but now he deserves at least the 1st 10 games of next season to see if there is any improvement on this season,if there is, well credit to him,15 plus points in these games would guarentee him more time,i for one would wish him luck because you never know we could be the team that he makes successful,credit to everyone involved with BWFC for the last 4 games to pull a miracle off.COME ON YOU WHITES..... [/quote] i'm in the anti megson camp and to change now would unsettle things we need to see how the summer transfer window pans out and give him 10 matches the same as lsl, if it mirrors his previous record we will be back in the bottom 3 which i think all would agree would not be acceptable.[/quote] Lets allow megson to buy some proper **** players in the summer then give him 10 games to prove you megson lovers wrong. megson = championship football and poor quality players. Collins would do me with all his European contacts.[/quote] well megson has signed 3 good players in taylor, cahill and steinsson and 2 bad ones in rasiak and cohen we dont know who he will sign and although im not happy with the guy it would be fair to give him 10 games next year and also why does giving megson a chance mean we are ''megson lovers''?
Only one Andy Walker wrote:
trotters1964 wrote: bignut wrote: Don't wish to disapoint all you Megson callers but he has acheived what he was employed for,that is keeping us up,albeit by the skin of his teeth,but now he deserves at least the 1st 10 games of next season to see if there is any improvement on this season,if there is, well credit to him,15 plus points in these games would guarentee him more time,i for one would wish him luck because you never know we could be the team that he makes successful,credit to everyone involved with BWFC for the last 4 games to pull a miracle off.COME ON YOU WHITES.....
i'm in the anti megson camp and to change now would unsettle things we need to see how the summer transfer window pans out and give him 10 matches the same as lsl, if it mirrors his previous record we will be back in the bottom 3 which i think all would agree would not be acceptable.
Lets allow megson to buy some proper **** players in the summer then give him 10 games to prove you megson lovers wrong. megson = championship football and poor quality players. Collins would do me with all his European contacts.
well megson has signed 3 good players in taylor, cahill and steinsson and 2 bad ones in rasiak and cohen we dont know who he will sign and although im not happy with the guy it would be fair to give him 10 games next year and also why does giving megson a chance mean we are ''megson lovers''?
Posted by: Only one Andy Walker, London on 7:27pm Mon 5 May 08
[quote][bold]matty_c[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Only one Andy Walker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]trotters1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]bignut[/bold] wrote: Don't wish to disapoint all you Megson callers but he has acheived what he was employed for,that is keeping us up,albeit by the skin of his teeth,but now he deserves at least the 1st 10 games of next season to see if there is any improvement on this season,if there is, well credit to him,15 plus points in these games would guarentee him more time,i for one would wish him luck because you never know we could be the team that he makes successful,credit to everyone involved with BWFC for the last 4 games to pull a miracle off.COME ON YOU WHITES..... [/quote] i'm in the anti megson camp and to change now would unsettle things we need to see how the summer transfer window pans out and give him 10 matches the same as lsl, if it mirrors his previous record we will be back in the bottom 3 which i think all would agree would not be acceptable.[/quote] Lets allow megson to buy some proper **** players in the summer then give him 10 games to prove you megson lovers wrong. megson = championship football and poor quality players. Collins would do me with all his European contacts.[/quote] well megson has signed 3 good players in taylor, cahill and steinsson and 2 bad ones in rasiak and cohen we dont know who he will sign and although im not happy with the guy it would be fair to give him 10 games next year and also why does giving megson a chance mean we are ''megson lovers''? [/quote] he doesn't deserve a chance with bwfc. he's had it and he almost got us relegated. we should have been in middle table if he is such a top manager.
why are you a megson lover? well you can't believe he's a good manager so you must love him to think he should be allowed to continue.
get him out
